and maz a message for him, that he needs to actually cooperate with barack obama, not attack him. >> joan, as i said, he questioned what ms. rice, ambassador rice knows. let me explain. ambassador rice, now the u.n. ambassador to the u.n., foreign policy adviser to john kerry, clinton administration '93 to 2001, a rhodes scholar, a ph.d. from oxford university. i mean, as was stated by rula, he didn't question condoleezza rice in 2005, when the whole world was questioning whether there was weapons of mass destruction. it was accepted that she was stating what was given to her. >> right. >> all miss rice did now, susan rice, was state what she was briefed on that day. >> and she was very clear. >> by the cia. >> right. and she was very clear about the ongoing uncertainty. i happen to know susan rice. i've known her for a decade. she's brilliant. so this notion that she's not qualified or she wasn't terribly bright in her remarks, it's really insulting. it's really personal. and yes, again, the man who put sarah palin -- tried to put sarah palin a heartbeat away from the presidency is